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8-30-2007- 2007 AD of Our LORD Jesus the Christ the Creator

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Ps:118:24: This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

 

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of Iniquity unto desolation for them who Deny the Christ, Jesus the Lord.

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I must pass on this mans invitation to WORK my way into the KINGDOM of God the Father, Sion.

Cause I am having just too much fun, watching him dig that arrogant lowestroom deeper and deeper

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One more thing lil piggie hillbilly.......its a terrible thing to be in the courts of the devil. Its like that Eagles song "you can check in anytime you want BUT YOU JUST CANT EVER LEAVE".......that is of course God desires to free you from there, but if your there its because HE WANTS YOU THERE, CAST YOU THERE, RESISTS YOU THERE. I suggest pightel you sincerly plea the Lord to reveal to you your position before him, to know where you really are in truth, THE LOWEST ROOM, so he may have mercy upon you and allow you up out of that place. 

Mr. Guenther, I came out of that Lowestroom long ago when I gave submission to the LORD of HOST in Humbleness before him. But you refuse and remain there, for your arrogant haughtiness and filthy lucre, you refuse , and you neglect the WAY out.

Luke 14:7 ¶ And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honorable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

 

Your not truly free Pightel until God brings you LOW by showing you what and who you really are, and only then, can he mold you into what he wanst you to be. Until then, you stay in there believing your not there, believing your redeemed and free, even a lil god and Christ even. Until you can see, YOUR BLIND and only see a delusion of your own fallen soul. I know I know, you say this is HERESY. Your forefathers did as well and your kin as well as yourself continue today (Acts 24;14). No revelation of and in the low place, NO SALVATION.....

Mr. Guenther always stops at the last..........and that is why he remains all locked up, for he has forsaken and neglected the last of that scripture.


Lu 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.


If you do not obey, you shall be DAMNED of your own will! Your gospel you preach is not new Pightel, its an old one that took many to hell and still does today on a greater scale then ever before.....



Your gospel is NOT jesus Christs gospel Pig Swill, even though you so badly lust and desire to believe it. The gospel is "THE CROSS" of which you hate, detest, and call "foolishness" (1 cor.1:1Cool because ITS HIDDEN FROM YOU (2 cor.4:3) because your lost and have not been found, hopefully "yet".
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In fact, Mr. Guenther the yap yapping therein that Lowestpit has stopped to a virtual standstill, since your latest tirade. ?????????

Mr. Guenther, really you should lighten up just a tad and get a sense of humor, for if you would you would laugh like the rest of us at your infantile tantrums. We give thanks to the King of Kings that the LORD was wise enough not to put you in Government power.

 

 

 

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Ya know, Im reading these posts....have had a good going over of them, and once again, I have come across UTTER IGNORANCE!. I say this "against" both sides of the debate. Yes, I say this even against my "brethren" who are on here claiming Jesus name BUT SOUNDING AND ACTING LIKE THE IGNORANCE OF THE HEATHEN!. You who claim Christ should know better having read the scriptures that "YOU DONT OPEN YOUR YAP ABOUT THINGS YA KNOW NOT". When given a question by the "temptors", IF YOU DONT KNOW THE ANSWER THEN SHUT UP cuz you are "grieving" the Holy Spirit!. All you unbelievers.....I expect your "devices" so I say nothing to you on your conduct.

Now, I have read taunts on this forum from the self proclaimed "rocket scientists", scoffing about..."SEND US REAL CHRISTIANS TO DEBATE CUZ WERE SICK OF THE NEWBIES" etc.

Well ladies and gentlemen, I GUARANTEE YOU that my knowledgeable database is way more than anyone I can read on here anyhow, CAN HANDLE!. And, I can and will answer EVERY QUESTION DIRECTED AT ME "CONCLUSIVELY", so the real crux is......"WHO SHALL YOU SEND"?

I await.....Oh, please send me some nice delectables like say that ANDREW MERRITT fellow!. I just love pompous IGNORANCE wrapped up in self conceited intellect!. As a matter of fact, my mouth "waters" for such "eats" (Rev.19;18)!!!.

For you who do NOT want your foot caught in your mouth, to be made ashamed, to be made to look stupid, or to be made to plainly look like YOU JUST DONT HAVE A BRAIN, I suggest you accept my offer of "defence" before you attempt to engage me....

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I dont "play around" and I dont find entertainment or amusment out of vague discussion of such things. LIFE AND DEATH ARE VERY SERIOUS so I dont phylacterize with "fools". If you are SERIOUS to whats being discussed and that to me, I shall likewise give you the same respect.

So then, "hit me with your best shot" as the proverbial lyric goes!
 
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Wow. I was just thinking you sound like a very angry person. Then I took a look at that link you posted. You're not just angry, you're a hate-monger. Quite frankly, you scare me in the same way and for the same reasons as Muslim hate-monger groups.
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me?nono..i'm no muslim hate monger. i dun even noe wats a hate monger
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Send in the CLOWNS!!!! :shock:
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Dont like it? I sound like a "HATE MONGERER"? (Lk.14:26)....

HIP HIP HOORAY, IVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE THEN!.

And, I sound like those "hate mongering arabs"???

DOUBLE GOOD, THEN I KNOW EVEN BETTER THAT IVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THERE BE A LOT OF BACKWARDS "WICKED" AND EVIL FOLK HERE THAT NEED MY SWORD TO "DIVIDE THEM ASUNDER"!

Now, is that all I get out of you ignorant morons? A couple of chippy tripes and then run away with tail between legs?

Hey "Zarathustra".....stick around, I want to tear you a new a-hole in your "head" so that the other sodomites dont get confused on "where to put it"!
  
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lowest room, "you do err because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." You are not being a good witness for Christ. Christians are told to be Humble, Forgiving, and to be "as wise as serpents, yet innocent as doves." We are also told to "be reviled and revile not," not "insult people first, then quote Scriptures erroneously in your defense."

Your remarks betray the fact that you are little more than an angry person, "lowest room," and even your name sounds "anti-christ." Did not Christ take His Last Supper in the "Upper Room?" Do you seek to, instead of attaining the higher calling Christ has for all, bring His message "down a peg" and live on an equal plain with non-believers?

We are told to "be like Christ," thereby proclaiming his Grace to all those around us, which will inevitably draw those who are called into Salvation.
Do that, and you will be living rightly. Otherwise, you are in disobedience to God and His Word, and you become a "sinner in the hand of an angry God." Remember this fact: Paul, when writing his letters, was not writing to those who did not already know the Truth. He was writing to them because they DID know the Truth, and yet they were in disobedience to it, which caused them to receive stern rebukes from the Apostle. Think about that before declaring your own self-righteousness and trying to slander the people of God.


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lowest room, "you do err because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."

Umm, you be very very FOOLISH my freind to assume such based upon the few words I have said so far. You said....

"You are not being a good witness for Christ. Christians are told to be Humble, Forgiving, and to be "as wise as serpents, yet innocent as doves." We are also told to "be reviled and revile not," not "insult people first, then quote Scriptures erroneously in your defense."

Umm, melchesedink, first off, I DONT LIKE "THE BLASPHEMY" of you taking upon yourself a moniker that belongs to "GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST "ONLY"! And, I WAS INSULTED THE MOMENT I CAME ON THIS SITE AND READ TRIPE FROM IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF! I dont stand in defence of "myself", BUT JESUS CHRIST. You dont like "insults" or "reviling" huh? Then I guess you dont like this either do you (Jn.8:44, Tit.1:10-13). NOW GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR and consider real good wether ye be in the faith or not before you decide to want to discuss anything with me cuz Im not digging your APOSTASY and my bible says Im to pay more attention in my "ROD GIVING" to those like yourself rather then the heathen because you have "TAKEN THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN"!. You said.....

"Your remarks betray the fact that you are little more than an angry person, "lowest room," and even your name sounds "anti-christ."

Very good you little DEVIL disguising yourself as "christian". Are you absolutely SURE of what you just said? Here, let me help you.....


So then, IM HERE TO "ABASE" YOU FOR YOUR HARD SAYINGS AGAINST THE LORD SATAN!. You said.....

"We are told to "be like Christ," thereby proclaiming his Grace to all those around us, which will inevitably draw those who are called into Salvation"

NOWHERE DOES IT SAY YOU ARE TO BE "LIKE CHRIST" YOU APOSTATE WORM!. 

and but of course as then is now

 

YOU "CANNOT BE LIKE...GOD..." IDIOT AND THE VERY IDEAOLOGY OF THAT "IS ANTICHRIST" FOR THE WORD ANTICHRIST MEANS IN THE GREEK ...."IN PLACE OF CHRIST"!!!.... "Grace" you little MAGGOT....IS NOT TO BE "FRUSTRATED" AS YOU ARE DOING BY GRANTING CLEMENCY TO THE DEVIL AND HIS CHILDREN........"WITHOUT REPENTANCE"!. The devils children will NOT come to he who has grace until THEY HAVE HAD THE SWORD/ROD CONVICT THEM THROUGH "JUDGMENT" (Pr.21:15) WHICH YOU ARE NOW GUILTY OF "PERVERTING" (gen.18:19, Ex.23:2, Deut.24:7, "27:19" and most impor. of all....PROV.28:5!!!). You ye lil "DEgenerate" have gone the way of BAAL and now serve him......


You said......

"He was writing to them because they DID know the Truth, and yet they were in disobedience to it, which caused them to receive stern rebukes from the Apostle. Think about that before declaring your own self-righteousness and ...."trying to slander the people of God".

VERY VERY OBSERVANT MELCHESIDINK! So, you now know that THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IM DOING HERE.....TO YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF DEFRAUDING AND MAKING MY LORD AND GOD LOOK LIKE "ONE OF YOU"!!!. Hey dink, you had best start using "SCRIPTURE" with me real quick before I start doing "open heart surgery" LIVE on this forum ON YOU for all others to watch and witness....BEFORE I PERFORM ON THEM AS WELL!

REPENT OR ELSE "SAYERS"!

  
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It seems Mr. Guenther has ALWAYS been in that Lowestroom of arrogant despair and slander and filthy Lucre

 


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"Umm, you be very very FOOLISH my freind to assume such based upon the few words I have said so far. You said.... "

You have not said few, but many words, and they are plenty for me to know what kind of person you are. Unkind, inappropriate, and hostile, with a slight trace of anti-semitism. You have planned to go on a "one-man crusade," foolishly thinking that by your own slanderous words you may "win souls." Instead, you come off as abrasive, abhorrent, and self-righteous. If you want Scripture, remember what Paul said in 1 Cor. 10: "I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought."

Again, in 1 Cor. 8:1-3: "Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know. But the man who loves God is known by God."

Gal. 6:3- "If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself."

Ephesians 4:29- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen."

Titus 3:10-11: "[i]Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him. You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."[/i]

There are many more Scriptures, "lowest room" (and I'm sure you, being well-versed in the Scriptures, should be able to find them) that attest to "not leaning on your own understanding,"etc. You seem to do a lot of that, and you truly are in error with many of the things you have posted.


"Umm, melchesedink, first off, I DONT LIKE "THE BLASPHEMY" of you taking upon yourself a moniker that belongs to "GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST "ONLY"! 

same old satanic accusations...over and over and over and over and over and over

 

And, I WAS INSULTED THE MOMENT I CAME ON THIS SITE AND READ TRIPE FROM IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF! I dont stand in defence of "myself", BUT JESUS CHRIST. You dont like "insults" or "reviling" huh? Then I guess you dont like this either do you (Jn.8:44, Tit.1:10-13). NOW GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR and consider real good wether ye be in the faith or not before you decide to want to discuss anything with me cuz Im not digging your APOSTASY and my bible says Im to pay more attention in my "ROD GIVING" to those like yourself rather then the heathen because you have "TAKEN THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN"!. You said.....

"Your remarks betray the fact that you are little more than an angry person, "lowest room," and even your name sounds "anti-christ."

Very good you little DEVIL disguising yourself as "christian". Are you absolutely SURE of what you just said? Here, let me help you....."

It is not Blasphemy for me to use this human title, as the ONLY NAME GIVEN by which we can be Saved is Jesus Christ, NOT Melchizedek. If you make that argument, then you must agree with Andrew about that heretical "quadrinity." You already said you disagree with the "Trinity" idealogy, so its hard to understand just how bogged down in heretical foolishness you truly are. I never said that I did not like Holy, Scriptural Rebukes (which is always what Jesus did), but I condemn in the utmost the type of trash you have posted (refer to the above verses). And yes, boy, I am fully assured of my Salvation and in the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I am an Itinerate Minister, (Jason Guenther boasted he was 8 years in seminary, found out that he just attended a bible class)  by the way, so you should be a little careful in addressing people as if they are simply "lay people." I suggest you take a long look in the mirror yourself, and decide whether the above-quoted verses apply to you. You do no "rod-giving" here boy, the rod is not in your hand. I have not taken the name of the Lord in vain by using the title Melchizedek, as I said before, Melchizedek didn't die for our sins and ascend into heaven, Jesus Christ did and it is only by THAT NAME that we are Saved. Jesus was made a "Priest forever in the order of Melchizedek," , not vice versa. On my comment about your name, I had not known that you were meaning it in a Scriptural sense, I perceived that you were using the name to blaspheme against Christ. However, it seems that you dont need a special name to do that, you do plenty of it with your heretical/gnostic posts.



"NOWHERE DOES IT SAY YOU ARE TO BE "LIKE CHRIST" YOU APOSTATE WORM!. YOU "CANNOT BE LIKE...GOD..." IDIOT AND THE VERY IDEAOLOGY OF THAT "IS ANTICHRIST" FOR THE WORD ANTICHRIST MEANS IN THE GREEK ...."IN PLACE OF CHRIST"!!!.... "Grace" you little MAGGOT....IS NOT TO BE "FRUSTRATED" AS YOU ARE DOING BY GRANTING CLEMENCY TO THE DEVIL AND HIS CHILDREN........"WITHOUT REPENTANCE"!. The devils children will NOT come to he who has grace until THEY HAVE HAD THE SWORD/ROD CONVICT THEM THROUGH "JUDGMENT" (Pr.21:15) WHICH YOU ARE NOW GUILTY OF "PERVERTING" (then as usual misguided scripture to back the big mouthed accuser)  (gen.18:19, Ex.23:2, Deut.24:7, "27:19" and most impor. of all....PROV.28:5!!!). You ye lil "DEgenerate" have gone the way of BAAL and now serve him...... "


One more verse to preface my response (James 1:19-20): "...Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."
Let that sink in just a moment.
On "being like the Lord:"

(2 John 1:9): "Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."

(2 Peter 3:11): "...what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives..."

[i](James 4:11): "Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. When you judge the Law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you---who are you to judge your neighbor?"[/i][i][/

(Every Book of the Bible...duh)
All the Scriptures, in fact, ultimately attest to living more like the Lord. I did not say we "become like God" (which is a Kabbalist heresy), only that we are commanded to strive to be Holy, because He is Holy. I never said ANYTHING was in place of Christ, though to me it seems that you put your preconceived ideals in place of Him. I am not guilty of perverting judgment, YOU ARE GUILTY OF PERVERTING THE WAY OF TRUTH. A passage in 2 Peter speaks of such a one as yourself (2 Pet. 2:10-) [i]"This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish."[/i]

Judgment and repentance are not up to you or me, lower room
, they are up to Jesus Christ, the Judge. I am in no way a degenerate, but you definitely fit that description.


"VERY VERY OBSERVANT MELCHESIDINK! So, you now know that THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IM DOING HERE.....TO YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF DEFRAUDING AND MAKING MY LORD AND GOD LOOK LIKE "ONE OF YOU"!!!. Hey dink, you had best start using "SCRIPTURE" with me real quick before I start doing "open heart surgery" LIVE on this forum ON YOU for all others to watch and witness....BEFORE I PERFORM ON THEM AS WELL!

Hooooey this Guenther

REPENT OR ELSE "SAYERS"!"

You are not rebuking anyone but yourself with what you post, lower room. And, by the way, my young/confused little friend, I would really like to see you make good on that "open heart surgery" where you take me apart for everyone to see. Your childish arguments won't work here, young man, and neither will your boastful arrogance ("pride cometh before a fall") convince anyone that you have any knowledge of the facts whatsoever. I do not defraud the Lord, you do by misrepresenting Him, His Word, and His Commands for us as Christians. You are the "worthless and untrustworthy servant," who has not returned anything on the Lord's investment in you but Anger, Hostility, and an un-Godly character, coupled with heretically gnostic beliefs. As I said before "You do err, because you do not know the Scriptures or the Power of God." You are probably even a "young earth creationist," am I right?


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I'll do my best to respond to your points Lowest, while ignoring your hateful rhetoric the best I can. As a thought for next time, try taking a few minutes to calm down before posting. Noone is attacking you; people are simply questioning what they have been told most of their lives.

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Well then, let me start the ball rolling. Hopefully this will also bring in brethren "in apostasy' so that I can also minister to their hurts and needs.

1. Jesus/God was "NOT" a jew, nor is he a "MAN" as you and I are.

2. There is NO 'triune godhead', NO TRINITY.
I agree with you. Jesus, God, Trinity, the Saints, etc. are simply concepts used to teach morals and establish guidelines for the general population. Further stories and figures are created past that to cause social unity and cooperation between members of the faith. However, simply because they teach something we hold dear doesn't mean they have to exist.

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3. The bible is FULL OF ERROR AND FRAUD!. It is a book about the "truth" of FALLEN CREATURES and those fallen creatures penned the bible at the behest of God, and other fallen creatures with unsavoury motives were imbued with the keeping of that word, BUT BEING FALLEN AND SINNERS, there sin did NOt leave the "written word" unscathed!. Thus, IT CONTAINS "THE TRUTH" about the lies and deeds of fallen man and has placed within "disclaimers" about those who "HAVE" added and taken away from the scriptures (jer.8;8-9, rev.22:19 and a pile of others!). You see "dummies", THE "RECORD" OF TRUTH WILL ALSO CONTAIN LIES SAID ABOUT THE TRUTH...WITHIN IT!. So then, the bible is MORE TRUE then most recognize!
Once again, I agree with you. The Bible does hold a certain amount of truth. I believe it should be valued as a historical reference, but a reference taken with a bit of scepticism. Furthermore, the fact that there are so many "problems" within the book itself and the decayed moral fiber of the authors makes questioning it a must. What I am doing now is simply questioning the foundation of the book, was the most significant character fact or fiction?

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4.JUDAISM is the "perversion" of Gods law, it is THE LAW "RELIGIONIZED" and has.....NOTHING....to do with christianity!.
First, this has nothing to do with understanding if Jesus was real or not. It is simply a belief you hold, and if you want a scholarly debate, you need to step away from whatever bias you might hold. That said, when you compare any religion to another, undoubtably religion B will be the "perversion" of religion A's laws. You are trying to compare apples to oranges, it simply doesn't work. If you wish to make this into an argument of some merit, you need to compare apples to apples (i.e. heresies within the Christian faith prior to the Ecumenical Council of Nicea(c.325)). At this point, we can begin to use these as building blocks to understand if Jesus did exist.

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5. There is no such thing as a JEWISH RACE, NOR ANY OTHER RACES!. Theres is only ONE 'race' (Heb.12:10) and there is only ONE FLESH AND BLOOD (Acts 17;26)
Once more, this is off the topic. Please remain focused when proving your points, jumping topics from Jesus to Jews to the Bible to whatever only muttles argumentation. Races are a man made convention. We simply use them to distinguish our kin from our nonkin. I agree that we shouldn't factor race, but sadly we have become dependent on it to define ourselves.

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6. The bible is a "lesson" that leads one from that of "the natural" to that of "the spiritual". only by COMPLETING the lesson (jn.8;31) will one then be able to move from 'a' to 'b', from natural to spiritual. thus, you folks argueing with those who admittedly have NOT COMPLETED THE DRILL are argueing with ABJECT SELF WILLED "IGNORANCE". Stop waisting your time!.
I agree, the Bible is simply a tool used to pass a lesson, but as you point out, it is corrupt; this means it needs to be questioned. However, originally the lessons were needed to be passed along to a population on the brink of chaos. As a society, we have evolved past this, and we are so entrenched in the morals of the Bible we are taught them regardless of our religious beliefs. Simply put, the Bible has lived passed its usefulness.

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7. The names JEHOVAH/YAHWAH/ELOHIYM etc. etc. were PENNED BY SCRIBES and are the names of "baali", BAAL/SATAN!(hos.2:16), names given to God by people who were supposedly following him!. THEY LIED and God made them "confess in pen and ink" in a RECORD so you would know it through his prophets!. The "people" of those names, and those names themselves WERE CUT-OFF/REJECTED for their abominations/its abomination (isa.65:15). Thus, you MORONS utilizing those names and connecting them to God or traditions are APOSTATE AND HEATHEN!. Sorry, you just dont know God and have been decieved by the laity!.
The names you have a problem with are simply different ways of saying the same word (i.e. God = Dios = Kami = Jehovah = Allah). You're fundamentally arguing that English is the best language. People of different ethnic backgrounds and languages label "God" with whatever their native word is. Furthermore, You just said the scribes of the Bible were sinners, corrupt, etc. What makes it so that your corrupt group of scholars are superior to another group of corrupt scholars?

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8. You clowns utilizing historical records to denounce the voracity of the scripture, ARE IDIOTS!. The oldest "complete" historical record we have ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET is the Holy Scriptures/the bible and almost any scholar of history of any weight will tell you the same!. THUS, IT BECOMES "EVIDENTUAL FACT NUMBER 1" and you must destroy that fact in order to place other documents or records in a historical "comparrison" and in a "timeframe", else, your blowing smoke!.
Actually, we have surprisingly good records from the Chinese, and the ancient Egyptians, and the Greeks, and the Persians, and the Romans, and so on. All of these predate the Bible, so no, it isn't the oldest complete record we have. It is without a doubt the most significant work ever written in the European world, but it has rivals elsewhere. We do use the anno domini (i.e. AD/BC) system (atleast in the Christian world) because of the conventions agreed upon in the 8th-9th century by powerful bishops at the time. There are however plenty of other timetables we can use if we so wish.

 

at least Guenther has met someone who agrees.......an atheist....bwah haw haw haw haw

  
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For you who do NOT want your foot caught in your mouth, to be made ashamed, to be made to look stupid, or to be made to plainly look like YOU JUST DONT HAVE A BRAIN, I suggest you accept my offer of "defence" before you attempt to engage me....
Is that because you don't have a brain yourself?

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melchesidink said:

"You have not said few, but many words, and they are plenty for me to know what kind of person you are. Unkind, inappropriate, and hostile, ...."with a slight trace of anti-semitism".....

Umm Dink....I WAS WAITING FOR THAT "LIE OF THE DEVIL" TO COME POPPINGOUT OF "YOUR TEMPLE"!.("anti-semitism). Your use of the word indicates clearly that YOU HAVE SUCCUMBED TO "THE DEVIL" AND BELIEVE THE GREATEST OF ALL HIS LIES, THAT OF THE "JEW GOO MASTER RACE"!....


Dink quoted:

Titus 3:10-11: "Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him. You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.


Dink said:

"It is not Blasphemy for me to use this human title, as the ONLY NAME GIVEN by which we can be Saved is Jesus Christ, NOT Melchizedek"

I said:

Dink, are you denying that MELCHESIDEC IS JESUS CHRIST???? If so, then EXACTLY like my judgment dictated, YOU ARE APOSTATE AND "NOT MY BROTHER"!........



Dink said:

"You already said you disagree with the "Trinity" idealogy, so its hard to understand just how bogged down in heretical foolishness you truly are"

I said:

THUS, EXACTLY AS I JUDGED AND DISCERNED, "YOU ARE A...."GODS"....WORSHIPPING APOSTATE MINION OF THE DEVIL PERVERTING THE LORDS SHEEP UNTO BAALIM!. YOU KNOW NOT THE LORD, "HAVE NOT BEEN REGENERATED", DO NOT BARE HIS GLORIOUS KNOWLEDGE (Ph.3:8), HAVE NOT DONE HIS BIDDING TO "KNOW THE TRUTH" (Jn.8;31) ARE "NOT" BORN AGAIN FOR YE DENY THE LORD IS YOUR "FATHER" HAVING BEEN BORE BY "OTHERS", AND ARE HEADED FOR LONG BATH IN GEHENNA!. Like I said, I came to the right place for there be "LIARS OF SATAN" here masquerading as "christians"!!!. REPENT DINK ELSE YOU SHALL PERISH MOST CERTAINLY....


Dinky toy said:

"And yes, boy, I am fully assured of my Salvation and in the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I am an Itinerate Minister, by the way, so you should be a little careful in addressing people as if they are simply "lay people.

I said:

Excellent, I LOVE IT!. Now the devil is revealing himself FROM YOUR MOUTH!. Your "assured" of your salvation there dinky toy?.....


OH YES DINKY TOY, YOU HAD BEST BUY SOME "ASBESTOS SWIMWEAR", YOUR GOING ON A LONG LONG LONG VACATION!

Dinky said:

"I have not taken the name of the Lord in vain by using the title Melchizedek"

I said:

I DIDNT say you took the name JESUS in vain by calling yourself melchesidec dink, "I SAID IT IN INFERENCE TO YOUR WORSHIPPING OF "THE GODS"/TRINITY YOU BLASPHEMING APOSTATE DREG FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LORDS CUP OF "WRATH"!. So DRINK UP!

Dink said:

One more verse to preface my response (James 1:19-20): [i]"...Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."
Let that sink in just a moment. On "being like the Lord:"




Dinky toy said:


"I would really like to see you make good on that "open heart surgery" where you take me apart for everyone to see."


ut they that seek the LORD understand all things.


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Go back to "go", do NOT collect $200, your utter IGNORANCE is showing!


NOW ALL YOU "UNBELIEVERS" ON HERE GETTING A CHUCKLE AT THE SO-CALLED "BRETHREN" HACKING AT EACH OTHER WITH SWORDS, BEST NOT GET TOO COMFORTABLE AND PUFFED. IF THE END OF THOSE OF THE NAME BE "REPROOF, REBUKE, REPROACH" FOR THE EVIL THE DEVIL WORKS IN THESE "LAST DAYS" AND THEY GET TANGLED THEREIN, WHAT DO YE THINK THE END OF YOU BE??????

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
  
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So far lowestroom, you havent proved anything to me. Other than you can cite stuff well. I am not a christian. I dont believe in it anymore and I dont like people like you saying that if you arent christian then you are going to hell. I dont believe in hell brother. I am a good person. I have never done anything that would hurt another and you are gonna sit there and tell me that because I dont accept Jesus I am going to hell and a man who murders children will go to heaven because when he was in prision he "found jesus"! I dont buy it.
  
   
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Zeidz.......your words BETRAY YOURSELF freind. If you didnt "believe in it" anymore, you wouldnt be on this forum, wouldnt be interested, and wouldnt have made this post to me!. The fact is "YOUR UNBELIEF" you say that you have "IS BELIEF"...."misplaced" and "against", but nevertheless....A BELIEF!.




And Zeidz, I didnt say if your not a "christian" your going to hell. "WHAT THE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS DONT KNOW IS THAT IT IS THEY THAT ARE GOING TO PERISH" (Mt.7;21-23). The very term...."christian".....was coined and used as a "DEROGATORY" term by.....JEWS.......in Antioch!(Acts 11:26). "JESUS NEVER USED THE TERM, HE USED.....DISCIPLE.....and .....APOSTLE!. So what Im telling you is that IF YOU DONT SEEK OUT HIM WHO HATH MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH and find "his righteousness" (Jer.23:6) and its not "moi" telling you.....ITS GOD!. Unless you can convince me....."YOU YOURSELF ARE GOD AND HATH CREATED ME ANd all that is in the universe, then, YOU ARE NO EXCEPTION!.

You "say" you are good! BY WHAT MEASURE DO YE MAKE THIS JUDGMENT? By "your own".......RELATIVE.........judgment? WHAT BASIS DO YE HAVE? I know "for a fact" that YOU ARE "NOT" GOOD and how do I know this?...

BECAUSE I AM NOT!

Now, are you are trying to convince me that you are "superior" or different then me? I THINK NOT!. You are a man as I am, same blood, same flesh, SAME FAULTS AND FAILURES!. The only difference between me and you is............"HOPE" (Roms.8;24).....and that quality "IS INHERENT WITHIN YOU"(2 Cor.6:16, Acts 2:17), you have just decided by your "own free will" not to acknowledge that and GODS "LOVE" GRANTED YOU THAT FREEDOM AND RIGHT!!

AND WHY?

Because you dont like what God has said "ABOUT YOU" just like others here have not liked what I have said about them on here!. Do you have children Zeidz? Then you would know why JUDGMENT & DISCIPLINE are character traits of......"TRUE LOVE".....because true love.....IS JEALOUS.....and cares beyond your frailties and own shortcomings. You said......

"I have never done anything that would hurt another....."

Thats a LIE Zeidz, you DO hurt others because....YOU HURT YOURSELF!. You will reflect to otheres how you reflect WITH YOURSELF. You deny God, his love, his judgments, thus, YOU DENY YOURSELF and in return you deny all others whom you communicate with of the same. You said....

"...and you are gonna sit there and tell me that because I dont accept Jesus I am going to hell and a man who murders children will go to heaven because when he was in prision he "found jesus"! I dont buy it."

I dont know who your talking about here Zeidz. WHO murdered kids and "found Jesus' in prison?. And, you "DO NOT FIND JESUS", HE FINDS YOU!. What you "find" is THE TRUTH and that must be sought for!.
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Guess you have all caught on by now. Satan is the accuser. He seeks whose faith he can destroy, by that he then makes his deal......Mr. Guenther fits that deal........Mr. Guenther is the Devil who went down to Georgia looiking for a soul to steal.....But these southern boys are have "Too Much fun"

 

then of course.......another debut of the Devils, and his lowestroom lackeys are very mysteriously silent.......but they will return.....indeed

http://www.thelowestroom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1452

 

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Kike boy - I must pass on this mans invitation to WORK my way into the KINGDOM of God the Father, Sion.


Works Pig Swill??? Do you really think that because you believe your a KIKE, all you have to do is say the magic word and presto, your in the kingdom??? Works Pig Hills???.....

 

Keep in mind that his word Pightel is actually a small parcel with a hedge around it.......SEE JOB who refused the accusation of SATAN


Amazing how you flap off about your "infallible" bible version, YET DENY AND REJECT WHATS WITHIN IT CONTINUIOUSLY to maintain your kike araogant unconditional supremacism!. You dont need to look any further why YOUR DAMNED!


Oh ya pigswill, your just oh so "humble' and "abased". Of course thats what you want from all the "goy" now dont you, cuz after all, your a chosenite by DNA and all mud people must come and bow at your feet "humble" and "abased" brefore you, yes?. Umm, Jesus wasnt too humble and abased in Jn.ch.8 towards you slimeballs was he? And neither shall his servanst be towards you either!


Pightel - In fact, Mr. Guenther the yap yapping therein that Lowestpit has stopped to a virtual standstill, since your latest tirade. ?????????

Ya ya ya, I know there Sameal, its all about how many numbers right? Samael, I dont give a crap how many deceived you get behind you, its not MANY pightel, its FEW that win at the end of the day 


Mr. Guenther, really you should lighten up just a tad and get a sense of humor, for if you would you would laugh like the rest of us at your infantile tantrums. We give thanks to the King of Kings that the LORD was wise enough not to put you in Government power.


Sorry, I just dont find murderous kike zionist bastards and their deeds very funny. In fact, I only find it WRATHFUL Pightel. But I guess your just dancing for joy you CHRISTIAN ZIONIST KIKES placed GW Bush into Government now arent you???Dont expect anything other then WRATH Samael, theres nothing your gonna recieve from God or the rest of the world but that!. Thats the only reward your children will ever get.......



C'mon Pigswill, where is the Canadian Human Rights Commisssion you promised? When are you gonna turn me in for "ANTI-SEMITISM" Pig Swill? How long before you run to your horde for help????

WHO HAS WHOM "ALL LOCKED UP"???


Pightel -Do not forget yesterdays, "Pig Swill" 790


Absolutely, dont forget it, you and THE MANY with you Pigswill because it is THE ONLY bible prophecy you can expect to come to pass, bet on it, IT IS WRITTEN and that even in your KJV idol.


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No ones "run away with tail between their legs," lowest room....

people just don't like talking to you because you are an offense, and an inappropriate little boy.......do you really think any of the non-believers here will "be convinced" with you just quoting Scriptures? They are only non-believers because they already DISBELIEVE them (in other words, they are probably all laughing at your silly posts right now). Thats why I (and the other Christians on these forums) have tried to be just slightly more tactful in our representation of Christ as Lord (i.e. we try not to "shout, curse, and kick, scream, cry")....... besides that, you misquote Scriptures, and even (on one of your other posts) tried to apply a passage from Job (which was actually about the futility of man comparing himself to God) to your "ranting"......if you want to talk about blasphemy, boy, I can't think of much more than equating yourself with God, which you have done. I mean, honestly, the ones on here that we Christians call non-believers have acted more appropriately than you......another thing, "lowest room," I don't care if you are an anti-semite, racist piece of trash, but don't think you can just insult people over the internet and pretend that "you've got guts," or something......you are, in fact, a coward, and use religion (much the same as Hitler and modern "neo-nazi's" did and still do) to hide behind while you display your abhorrent personality traits and tendencies.....

If you're on here to teach people about Christ, you have failed.......

If you're on here to show everyone how simple and foolish you are, you've been a smashing success........

indeed....Mr. Guenther you have been in a debate, you know it not and you have failed miserably

 

sheeeesh !!!!

Mr. Guenther I am so thankful that I am a sinner, saved by the Grace of GOD, by faith in the Lamb provided. By your standards you are the only one there is and are now become a GOD

http://www.thelowestroom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1452

Suuueeeeyyyy Suuuuueeeeeyyyy Suuuueeeyyy lil Piggies!

 

Poor Mr. Guenther, it is quiet sad indeed.......do ah heah aeean ameean from frog? Skandiwoman, the lordssecret? Sergei Daniel? Alethia? Billy? Zogby? Did not think so....I rest. Would you also like a "Debate"? Did not think so, for you ccannot come forward with your assertions and hide down in that LOWESTPIT of DESTRUCTION......REPENT and HUMBLE yourselves in Christ and leave that wretched place.

You are all washed up, Mr. Guenther, all washed up.

 

Sergei Daniel you are admonished !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONFESS or repent !!!!!!!!!!

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Serge, it is plainly obvious that you are Jason, or "lowest room." This is fact.

His Love for the Lord would be proper if he displayed it as such, but he does not........he is (right now) what is properly called a "heretic," and does not have the Holy Spirit within him. If you (or "he" if you NEED me to pretend that you aren't "lowest room") want to be a True Follower of Jesus Christ, then you/"he" should know how, if you/"he" know the Scriptures so well.
Mel, honestly, I'm not Jason: though having been a witness to his testimony (also on his site), I think that not being Jason is not a compliment. Also, having read his "iniquity" article, I disagree that he does not have the Holy Spirit within him, I dont think without the guidanceof the Holy Spirit one is capable of writing anything like that. YET: he is a man, and as such, capable of failures just as you & I are.

You can tell the difference between Jason & I, as I'm humbled to admit my less than par knowledge of God's word, which is why you dont see me quoting scripture - however God's word is sown in my heart, and as a disciple of the Lord that will increase. I do however know the Lord, and will do my best to support Him & those who know or seek to know Him.

I wont judge your heart, as only the Holy God knows it.

My argument stays: attack the message, not the way the message is delivered

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I never thought I'd be forced to side with non-believers against a (so-called) Christian, but I guess I do.........Lowest Room, you are laughable..............I finally get you and your website now...you WANT to be arrested by the ADL or something so that you can "become famous" as a "religious martyr" or something (Dave Koresh did that too, and guess what? he also claimed to be a Christian, and was known to be good at quoting Scripture, especially out of context).........that's weird that you would even mention such things as us "calling down rabbi's" on you or "getting the ADL on you" or something.........I am now wondering (and this is after reading your website, and boy, its a doozy!) if you are simply a deranged person or...do you think yourself a prophet or the messiah or something? I mean, you definitely aren't spreading the Truth of Christ, in fact, I think everyone here would agree (even the non-believers, if they believed in Satan) that it is You, my sad little friend, who would appear to be "in League with the Devil."
If you truly Love/Obey Christ, why don't you follow His commands? You do nothing but post foolish, heretical rants that are actually in direct opposition to Christ........Christ is definitely the Judge, but He is also the Redeemer, and you need to remember that.........

And what did Christ the Lord say were "The Greatest Commandments?"

(Matt. 22:37-40):
"Jesus replied: [i]Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."[/i]

I wonder, are you fulfilling these two, which Jesus Christ Himself espoused as the Greatest, when you get on here and insult both Christian Brethren and non-believers? I think not.
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let me venture a wild guess........is it..........You?

"dingdingding, you've won the prize"

Boy, you are one confused little fella....do you even actually go to Church, or are they all to "heretical" for you as well? You should talk to your Pastor about these anger-issues of yours....

"The true sign of an anger junkie."-Jack Nicholson, "Anger Management"

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let me venture a wild guess........is it..........You?

"dingdingding, you've won the prize"

Boy, you are one confused little fella....do you even actually go to Church, or are they all to "heretical" for you as well? You should talk to your Pastor about these anger-issues of yours....

"The true sign of an anger junkie."-Jack Nicholson, "Anger Management"
Hey mel, I'm a born again Christian, and I actually dont see anything wrong with Jason's posts. Can you really use his passion for the Lord against him? Instead of attacking his style: myself, and I'm sure many other believers in the audience would like to see challenge to what Jason's saying. Like I said, his use of scriptures is incredible, and he really hasn't stated anything off the wall: that is if you read your Bible.

Way to go Jason, way to stand on God's word!


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hey vinnie bobarino..........."TAKE YOUR COPYRIGHT CRAP AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR KOOLOO YOU GOD DAMNED "MAMMONITE" WORSHIPPING AND SERVING

........."THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL"........

Sorry dude, i dont agree with and am in utter enmity to "COPYRIGHT" and "COPYRIGHTS". As far as Im concerened there is NO PLACE FOR IT ON THE "INTERNET", which so happens to have been hijacked by lil mammonites just like yourself. Thus, IM YOUR ENEMY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ONE DUDE! I dont belive in "intellectual property" because I know all of that is OWNED BY GOD.........................."EVEN YOU"!. And, theres only ONE CREATOR. "YOU MORONS CANT "CREATE" A THING, NOT EVEN OUT OF YOUR PUNY MINDS so making a cliam "copyright" is a .....SICK JOKE!

Nay dude, when it comes to "COPYRIGHT" I guess you can call me a "commie" because I go........"COPYLEFT".....

Perhaps you should get off the info highway dude seeing how its NOT gonna be that easy creating "merchandize" of it and others WITHOUT A BIG FIGHT!.

here, go "copyright" this........(if you can only see it!)

 

OK so now maybe you can see.

Maybe no.

Suuueeeeyyyy Suuuuueeeeeyyyy Suuuueeeyyy lil Piggies!

Darn, ain't that bacon good ?

REPENT in Jesus Christ the KING and Humble your self.

AND PLEASE READ the PMS !!!!!!!!!!

 

Jason Guenther gone wild on You-Tube

a must see, a reprobate mind. A fact and documented

you have to admit, the timing is perfect, what a coincidence, such sense of humor....lighten up Jason Guenther.....lighten up..boy......

Bwah haw haw haw haw, thanks reader.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUPo0F7MFM

 

 

THANK YOU...

 

...listen up Froggy'

http://www.thelowestroom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1453

 

and for CRYING out LOUT Jason king Please read the frogs PMS !!!!!!!!!!

____________

 

Now finally the Noahide news

 

Your Chabad Dan, Noahide bloody Anti-Christ Government "Hard at Woerk Maraka, cause its haerd woerk". These Treasonous Vipers are all sold out to the GREAT Harlot. A VERY REAL Global conspiracy. A Very Very Real proof that the Prophecy of Christ is at hand.

CHJCC members Chanina Sperlin, Yanky Herzog & Noochie Gross shmooze with NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg on his way out from the JCRC dinner earlier this week in Manhattan.

 

SHMAIS EXCLUSIVE
Rabbi Mendy Mintz, Shliach in Aspen, CO and U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney, following a recent meeting.

 

Mendy Hecht of Parkslope, Brooklyn, NY along with New York's Senator Charles E. Schumer after the Senator bentched Lulav & Esrog on Chol Hamoed.

Rabbi Levi Krinsky of Lubavitch of New Hampshire with Democratic Presidential hopefuls - Sen. Joe Lieberman (top) and Howard Dean (bottom) @ a Chanukah Party in NH.

CEO of Shmais News Service & SHMAIS.com Levi Hodakov with Israel's Finance Minister and former Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, Sunday evening in Jerusalem.

 

Former NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani addressing the crowd @ the recent dinner for the Jewish Children’s Museum.

SNS EXCLUSIVE
Rabbi Yosef Dubrowski, Shliach in Tampa, FL talks with US President George W. Bush in the Oval Office.

 

Vice President Dick Cheney smiles while posing for a picture with group of Lubavitchers who met up with the Veep in Manhattan

 

US Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist with Rabbi Alexander Kaller Shliach in Sunny Isles Beach, FL and Mark Zaslavsky a member of the Miami Russian Jewish Comm.

Rabbi Cunin & Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger @ the Menorah lighting on the steps of California's State Capitol

 

@ the recent Torah Inauguration Ceremony organized by Chabad of Rego Park, Congressman Anthony Weiner took the opportunity to don Tefillin with the Shliach Rabbi Eli Blokh & the Sofer Rabbi Moshe Klein.

 

 

This Viper gets off scott free for his murders

White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, poses with Shluchim in the White House @ the Chanuka party on Tuesday night.

 

 

and NOW this Hasidic Chabad Lubavitch of Dan Sanhedrin,  MURDERER

Rabbi Yossi Nemes and Rabbi Zelig Rivkin with US Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff @ the White House

 

 
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By Jim Kirwan
8-30-7

Very few Americans, not directly affected by this man of many faces have no idea, of who really directs the duties of the 180,000 government employees in DHS: Duties that this man now holds in his stained and conflicted hands. It seems that the variety of controversies which have paralleled Michael Chertoff's meteoric rise in government have been allowed to languish in the shadows for far too long. If the public does not soon become familiar with who their Director of Homeland Security really is-then they may live to regret that oversight.
 
The details of Michael Chertoff's personal history should have disqualified him for high office: but instead his nomination for this job was approved without objection by the Senate.
 
"The Senate voted 98-0 to approve Chertoff on February 15. Chertoff, 51, took the oath of office that night in "a private ceremony at the White House."
 
DHS has a $32 billion budget, 180,000 employees, and jurisdiction over immigration, customs and transportation security, the Coast Guard, the Secret Service and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
 
The question of Chertoff's dual-nationality doesn't seem to have concerned a single U.S. senator.
 
Many have wondered who let the detained suspected Israeli agents go back to Israel, immediately after 911. Apparently it was Michael Chertoff.
 
"Chertoff allowed scores of suspected Israeli terrorists and spies to quietly return to Israel . In several cases, Israeli suspects working for phoney moving companies, such as Urban Moving Systems from Weehawken, N.J., were caught driving moving vans which tested positive for explosives. On September 14, Dominic Suter, the owner of the moving company, which was found to be a Mossad front company, fled to Israel after FBI agents requested a second interview.
 
One group of 5 Israelis was seen on the roof of Urban Moving Systems videotaping and celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center. These Israeli agents were returned to Israel on visa violations.
 
These Israeli suspects, and others, who had apparently transported explosives in the New York area, were allowed to return to Israel without being properly interrogated or their presence and activities in the United States having been vigorously investigated." (1)
 
What is publicly available about Chertoff's life and his various careers is not comforting, if you care about either law or justice-and it's especially troubling if you demand a depth of character from those who occupy the highest offices in this land. Ah but then this is the Cheney-Bush Era of Empire, so that 'quaint idea' is probably now completely without merit.
 
"Chertoff is credited with authoring the Patriot Act, (Reichstag Enablink AKT) the 300-plus page blueprint for the modern National Security State; patterned to great extent on the successes of the KGB in the Soviet system. He's admired among his Bush cadres for making sure that government surveillance operates at maximum efficiency. Under his stewardship at the Dept of Justice, the 4th amendment has withered like summer grass. The long-held belief that citizens, have a right to a "reasonable expectation of privacy" has buckled under the demands of "Big Brother" and the new "intrusive" security paradigm."
 
And: "Chertoff's record of failure at Justice is second only to that of Ashcroft. His 4 year tenure hasn't produced even one identifiable success. (Check out his "obstruction of justice" in the John Walker Lindh case on Democracy Now) Instead, his personal ineptitude and his palpable contempt for the law have only showered more disgrace on the institution of American justice. That probably explains why he's being moved up the bureaucratic dog-pile to the top rung of Homeland Security. In Bush-world "failing upwards" is more commonplace than cowboy boots at a Crawford tent-show." (2)
 
As someone that controls the largest Federal Agency in the US government; the life and accomplishments of Michael Chertoff ought to be available and easy to locate: but that has not been the case. Instead the important details concerning Michael Chertoff's past have been meticulously scrubbed from the net. The basics are available from Wikipedia but the facts surrounding the depth of his family's involvement in the actual creation of the State of Israel, have disappeared.
 
"Chertoff is the co-author, along with Viet Dinh, of the USA PATRIOT Act , signed into law October 26, 2001. As head of the Justice Department's criminal division, he advised the Central Intelligence Agency on the outer limits of legality in coercive interrogation sessions." (3)
 
One of the little known aspects inside all the secrecy surrounding The vile National ID Card, the HOMELAND Security Act, and the shadowy FEMA camps that many believe are about to be used-concerns the other master criminals that Cheney-Bush hired to ensure that Americans will become as completely controlled a population, as were the people of Communist East Germany or the old USSR.
 
For Instance: "This "card" (the National ID Card) was designed for Homeland Security by the former East German STAZI chief, Marcus Wolfe, a master of manipulation and intimidation and Primakov the former head of the KGB in the USSR. These two former spy chiefs are who really run our SECRET National Interior Spy Service. Bush employed them specifically for what they brought from their communist states - now they decide who lives and who dies in America! These men have not changed, they are who they are, and that's why Bush & the Bandits hired them for HOMELAND Security. If these men appeared for work, in the uniforms of their former States, the public would be outraged, and rightfully so! How is it that the radical right continues to decry Communism, yet they have allowed Bush to employ top communist counter-intelligence officers to oversee every facet of our lives?" (4)
 
Throughout this long international nightmare there remains the still incomplete tragedy of the insertion of Israel, as a State, into what was once Palestine. This conflicted and war-torn place has been the international flashpoint of privilege over human rights and bondage over freedom for over half a century. Flames and blood from this dispute were ignited by greed and by those dark and destabilizing dreams of Empire that were beginning even before the First World War. Here's something that one woman adds to the on-going dialogue in Palestine-because what she's found is pivotal to the veracity of claims made by the Zionist extremists that control "Israel" today.
 
This is why the dual citizenship of our Homeland Security Czar is incompatible with his position in government today. The USA is large enough to require that all our highest officials be Americans without dual citizenships, or conflicts of national interest, from any other nation. (5)
kirwan
 
 
Controlled Press Hides Chertoff's Israeli Roots
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframesread=66175
 
Falling Upwards - the Rise of Michael Chertoff
http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney0122200 5.html
 
Michael Chertoff - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
 
Our CRIMINAL Justice System
http://www.rense.com/general65/criminal.htm
 
Giving Credit Where Credit is Due - Jayne Gardner
http://thepaleoconservativeprimer.blogspot.com/
 
Posted by The_West on 7/13/2007

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 Do not forget yesterdays, "Pig Swill" 790
 
 

The global MURDERERS behind the bloody Bushwhacker Ad-menstruation

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103795.html

Pro-'surge' group is almost all Jewish


Four of five members of the board of a campaign promoting President Bush's policies in the Iraq war are Republican Jews.

The board of "Freedom's Watch" includes Ari Fleischer, Bush's former press secretary; Matt Brooks, the executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition; Bradley Blakeman, a senior White House staffer in Bush's first term; and Mel Sembler, a longtime RJC leader and former ambassador to Rome.

Brooks told JTA that the fifth member, William Weidner, a casino operator in Las Vegas, is not Jewish. However, Weidner's wife, Lynn, is Jewish and is active in that city's federation. Blakeman is the group's president.

Brooks said it would be a mistake to regard the group as having a Jewish direction.

Bwah haw haw haw haw haw.....yeah right

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg is more determined. He knows that in the near future the Land of Israel is about to expand. He writes, "It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not—they will be killed." (Ma'ariv, 10/6/04)

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/03/chabad-lubavitch-rabbi-to-congress.html



"It's a coincidence that several of the board members are Jewish," he said, noting that half of the donors contributing to the group's first $15 million ad campaign are not Jewish.

compare to the 1.5% per capita JEW in the US.....and 50%........

The ad blitz will promote Bush's "surge" policy in Iraq ahead of September, when Congress is set to assess the success of the influx of additional U.S. troops into Iraq.

Brooks said the aim ultimately is to build a grassroots organization that would promote Republican domestic and foreign policies and would replicate similar groups backing Democrats.

Obedient anti-Christ Noahide blitz

"This is a clear message to conservatives and Republicans and others who see what has happened on the left to let them know with Freedom's Watch that the cavalry is coming," Brooks said.

Of eight donors named Thursday in Politico, a political newspaper, four are Jewish: Sembler; Richard Fox, the chairman of the Jewish Policy Center, an RJC-affiliated think tank; Ed Snider, the founder of the Philadelphia Flyers ice hockey franchise who has been elected to several Jewish Sports Halls of Fame; and Sheldon Adelson, a Las Vegas casino operator who recently launched a giveaway newspaper venture in Israel.

all are MURDERING TREASONOUS TALMUDIC Anti-Christ Vipers

 
 
and today's Swill
 
 
 
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0%2C%2C2157913%2C00.html
 
 

Bush threatens to confront Iran over alleged support for Iraqi insurgents



· US president accuses Tehran of arming militants
· Speech aimed at shoring up support for 'surge'


Ed Pilkington in New York
Wednesday August 29, 2007
The Guardian

George Bush speaks at the 89th annual American Legion convention in Reno, Nevada.
George Bush speaks at the 89th annual American Legion convention in Reno, Nevada. Photograph: Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images
 


George Bush yesterday ramped up the war of words between the US and Iran, accusing Tehran of threatening to place the Middle East under the shadow of a nuclear holocaust and revealing that he had authorised US military commanders in Iraq to "confront Tehran's murderous activities".

While this Bloody Ad-menstruations MURDERS go unchecked and apostate Maraka is drunken and do slumber in a haze

In a speech designed to shore up US public opinion behind his unpopular strategy in Iraq, the president reserved his strongest words for the regime of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which he accused of openly supporting violent forces within Iraq. Iran, he said, was responsible for training extremist Shia factions in Iraq, supplying them with weapons, including sophisticated roadside bombs. Iran has denied all these accusations.

SEE Buwhacker's lies for PURIM IRAQ for His Hasidic Masters of HELL's Hoodlum haha

Mr Bush referred specifically to 240mm rockets which he said were made in Iran this year and smuggled into Iraq.

see Yellowcake

"Iran has long been a source of trouble in the region," he said.

See Bushwhackers unhistorical propaganda movie from whoeywood "300"

" Iran's active pursuit of technology that could lead to nuclear weapons threatens to put a region already known for instability and violence under the shadow of a nuclear holocaust."

Know for the Bushwhacker's manufactured instability and MURDERS

The blunt terms in which Mr Bush portrayed the Iranian threat, and his threat of military confrontation with Tehran involving US troops based in Iraq, elevated the tense standoff between Washington and Tehran to a new level.

The speech also contained the implicit desire on Mr Bush's part for regime change, calling for "an Iran whose government is (Noahide) accountable to its people, (While the Buswhacker Treasonous Dictator kingship goes unchecked) instead of to leaders who promote terror and pursue the technology that could be used to develop nuclear weapons".

see 800 Billion dollars used for Bushahwckers Purim Iraq, aFGHANISTAN MURDERS for his masters

Equally menacing words emanated from Tehran yesterday, where Mr Ahmadinejad said US influence in the region was collapsing so fast that a power vacuum would soon be created. "Of course, we are prepared to fill the gap," he said.

Sorry Ahmadinejad, that is not what My Bible says will happen

Though the Iranian president said he backed the leadership of the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, and welcomed the involvement of Saudi Arabia, his offer to occupy the space the Americans might leave behind is unlikely to cool emotions in Washington.

He went on to deride the possibility of the US pursuing military action in Iran, saying it was in no position to do so and claimed that Iran had already acquired enriched nuclear fuels, though they would only be used for peaceful purposes.

In a further cause of tension, Mr Bush accused the Quds force within Iran's revolutionary guards of leading the supply chain to Iraqi extremist groups. As the Guardian revealed earlier this month, the Bush administration is preparing to declare the 125,000-strong Revolutionary Guard Corps a "global terrorist organisation" - a move that would be seen as provocative within Tehran.

because if you are not with Bushwhacker and his hasidic TERRORIST, then they have already determined you are against their god wannabe, who is SATAN the MURDERER from the beginning....Do ah heah aeean ameeean Maraka?

According to reports from Baghdad last night, a group of Iranians were detained last night in a raid by US troops on a hotel in the city. 

while the 5 Mossad were let go at WTC Sept 11, 2001?

Of 10 people arrested, seven were said to be Iranian, including an employee of the Iranian embassy and six members of Iran's electricity ministry in Iraq to discuss contracts for electric power stations. It was not immediately clear why the men had been arrested, or where they had been taken. The US military would only say the action was part of an on-going operation.

detainees of Chertoffs shem sham of everlasting shame?

Mr Bush's bullish talk of his determination to "take the fight to the enemy" (Empiracal invasion and unjust war)  in the carefully choreographed setting of a veterans' convention in Reno, Nevada, was the second of a two-part appeal by him to shore up public support for his flagging strategy on Iraq. In the first speech, made last week, he invoked Vietnam to argue that quitting Iraq now could put the lives of millions of innocent civilians at risk.

so send more Marakan sons and daughters to die for Satans little minion of Hell Maraka

Mr Bush yesterday vowed to persevere with his controversial military policy in Iraq, insisting that political and security progress was being made, despite a rising tide of dissent even from high up within his Republican party.

For he does not need the Marakan people to run his little dictatorship, temporary as it is

"Our strategy is this: every day we work to protect the American people. 

Bwah haw haw haw haw haw haw

We will fight them over there so that we don't have to fight them in the United States of America," he said.

Maraka surely you are not that dense?

The twin speeches were intended as preparation for a crucial series of debates on Iraq that will dominate Washington for the next few weeks.

In a fortnight the senior general in Iraq, General David Petraeus, and American ambassador in Iraq, Ryan Crocker, will give two days of testimony in which they are likely to argue that the troop "surge" is having some beneficial impact on security levels, though political progress lags behind.

Paid Lackey's

Under the current policy, US troop numbers in Iraq have risen by 30,000 to about 165,000.

Not to mention the tens of thousands of Blackwater Mercenaries, Killers for hire

As the climax of these intense hearings, Mr Bush himself will present his latest assessment.

Using a chart drawn with his crayola crayons ?

Yesterday's speech was the latest clear indication that he will resist any attempt to change course in the prosecution of the war.

ILLEGAL WAR of A Treasonous MURDERING anti-Christ serpent

Mr Bush's latest attempt to reassure the American people that the war is moving in the right direction came on another tumultuous day in Iraq.

Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims attending a Shia festival in Kerbala, 68 miles south-west of Baghdad, were ordered to leave the city after intense fighting broke out, reportedly between warring Shia factions. At least 52 people have been killed since Monday, mostly police officers engaging in the battle.

 
Thank you very Much Maraka
 
 
 
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Bill Hijarah

Fred Habachi, Special to PalestineChronicle.com

 

 
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August 29, 2007

No word, no poetry, no art, nothing that can be expressed verbally or otherwise may convey the majesty and the glory of the human spirit as it was expressed by this Palestinian mother and her children.


No, Bill Hijarah is not someone’s name. In fact, it’s not a name at all. It’s a phrase in Arabic. To be phonetically more accurate, it should have been written: "be al hijarah," or "b’ll hijarah," which is how it sounds when you say it fast. The phrase means: with the stones.

"B’ll hijarah, b’ll hijarah" is a cry I once heard while watching the news on television some decade ago or maybe longer. The cry became so engraved in my soul, I can never watch a spin doctor labor to denigrate the Palestinian people without the scene which gave birth to that cry come to memory and scream at me: "Don’t believe a word of this."

The scene is that of a young Palestinian woman running out of her house, one toddler on her arm and another toddler following her. She was not running away from something, she was running ahead to confront something. That something was an Israeli tank that was bigger than the house. The monster tank had come to demolish the house, and upon hearing it approach, the woman came out of the house with her children. She put down the child on her arm, picked up a stone and cried out to the toddlers: "b’ll hijarah, b’ll hijarah," as she threw the first stone at the advancing tank hoping against hope to stop its advance on the house.

No word, no poetry, no art, nothing that can be expressed verbally or otherwise may convey the majesty and the glory of the human spirit as it was expressed by this Palestinian mother and her children. And no envoy from the Zionist establishment is big enough, smart enough or powerful enough to change this reality. But when someone from that establishment goes on television to try and denigrate the Palestinian people, they only prove that lowlife can sometimes exist alongside a glorious majesty.

The glorious majesty is that of the Semitic Palestinian woman, her two toddlers and all those who hunger for justice while standing up to injustice with no more than a stone small enough to fill the hand of a child, and a heart big enough to envelop a love of life that no lowlife can ever grasp.

The lowlife is that of the commanders who send their tanks to demolish the homes of those whose homeland they once plundered and whose children they now kill lest they multiply and gain the political clout by which to reclaim what was taken from them by force of arm.

The lowlife is that of the spin doctors from the Zionist establishment who go on television and denigrate the Palestinian people so as to say that Palestinians do not belong in the land where they have lived continuously since the beginning of time.

The lowlife is that of characters who made a mess of their lives throughout history in every corner of the planet then committed the largest identity theft in history by claiming they are the Semites and by throwing the anti-Semitic accusation at anyone who refuses to applaud their genocidal slaughter of the Semitic Palestinians.

The lowlife are the spin doctors from the Zionist establishment who create imaginary paradigms that are mirror images of reality by turning reality upside down and by enforcing the paradigms through schemes that closely define the meaning of lowlife.

Finally, the glorious majesty is that of all the people of goodwill who will chip away at the phony paradigms one single grain at a time until the monster that is producing them is exhausted and depleted by attrition.

If a young Palestinian woman and her toddlers can brave a monster Israeli tank, we can all brave the monstrosity of the Zionist Lobby which seeks to destroy the lives, the careers and the reputations of those who seek to neutralize its toxic activities. And we should all seek to neutralize the Zionist Lobby so that humanity may live as it was meant to live, free of a constant source of poisonous intrigues and venomous demagoguery.

There is no loftier goal for all of us to accomplish together as one human family than this lofty goal.

- The writer is a retired teacher living in Ontario, Canada.

 
 
 
MURDERERS
 
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0735%2Chentoff%2C77643%2C6.html
 
 
Nat Hentoff
History Will Not Absolve Us
Leaked Red Cross report sets up Bush team for international war-crimes trial
by Nat Hentoff
August 28th, 2007 6:30 PM

If and when there's the equivalent of an international Nuremberg trial for the American perpetrators of crimes against humanity in Guantánamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the CIA's secret prisons, there will be mounds of evidence available from documented international reports by human-rights organizations, including an arm of the European parliament—as well as such deeply footnoted books as Stephen Grey's Ghost Plane: The True Story of the CIA Torture Program (St. Martin's Press) and Charlie Savage's just-published Takeover: The Return of the Imperial Presidency and the Subversion of American Democracy (Little, Brown).

While the Democratic Congress has yet to begin a serious investigation into what many European legislators already know about American war crimes, a particularly telling report by the International Committee of the Red Cross has been leaked that would surely figure prominently in such a potential Nuremberg trial. The Red Cross itself is bound to public silence concerning the results of its human-rights probes of prisons around the world—or else governments wouldn't let them in.

But The New Yorker's Jane Mayer has sources who have seen accounts of the Red Cross interviews with inmates formerly held in CIA secret prisons. In "The Black Sites" (August 13, The New Yorker), Mayer also reveals the effect on our torturers of what they do—on the orders of the president—to "protect American values."

She quotes a former CIA officer: "When you cross over that line of darkness, it's hard to come back. You lose your soul. You can do your best to justify it, but . . . you can't go back to that dark a place without it changing you."

Few average Americans have been changed, however, by what the CIA does in our name. Blame that on the tight official secrecy that continues over how the CIA extracts information. On July 20, the Bush administration issued a new executive order authorizing the CIA to continue using these techniques—without disclosing anything about them.

If we, the people, are ultimately condemned by a world court for our complicity and silence in these war crimes, we can always try to echo those Germans who claimed not to know what Hitler and his enforcers were doing. But in Nazi Germany, people had no way of insisting on finding out what happened to their disappeared neighbors.

We, however, have the right and the power to insist that Congress discover and reveal the details of the torture and other brutalities that the CIA has been inflicting in our name on terrorism suspects.

Only one congressman, Oregon's Democratic senator Ron Wyden, has insisted on probing the legality of the CIA's techniques—so much so that Wyden has blocked the appointment of Bush's nominee, John Rizzo, from becoming the CIA's top lawyer. Rizzo, a CIA official since 2002, has said publicly that he didn't object to the Justice Department's 2002 "torture" memos, which allowed the infliction of pain unless it caused such injuries as "organ failure . . . or even death." (Any infliction of pain up to that point was deemed not un-American.) Mr. Rizzo would make a key witness in any future Nuremberg trial.

As Jane Mayer told National Public Radio on August 6, what she found in the leaked Red Cross report, and through her own extensive research on our interrogators (who are cheered on by the commander in chief), is "a top-down-controlled, mechanistic, regimented program of abuse that was signed off on—at the White House, really—and then implemented at the CIA from the top levels all the way down. . . . They would put people naked for up to 40 days in cells where they were deprived of any kind of light. They would cut them off from any sense of what time it was or . . . anything that would give them a sense of where they were."

She also told of the CIA interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, who was not only waterboarded (a technique in which he was made to feel that he was about to be drowned) but also "kept in . . . a small cage, about one meter [39.7 inches] by one meter, in which he couldn't stand up for a long period of time. [The CIA] called it the dog box."

Whether or not there is another Nuremberg trial—and Congress continues to stay asleep—future historians of the Bush administration will surely also refer to Leave No Marks: Enhanced Interrogation Techniques and the Risk of Criminality, the July report by Human Rights First and Physicians for Social Responsibility.

The report emphasizes that the president's July executive order on CIA interrogations—which, though it is classified, was widely hailed as banning "torture and cruel and inhuman treatment"—"fails explicitly to rule out the use of the 'enhanced' techniques that the CIA authorized in March, 2002, "with the president's approval (emphasis added).

In 2002, then–Secretary of State Colin Powell denounced the "torture" memos and other interrogation techniques in internal reports that reached the White House. It's a pity he didn't also tell us. But Powell's objections should keep him out of the defendants' dock in any future international trial.

From the Leave No Marks report, here are some of the American statutes that the CIA, the Defense Department, and the Justice Department have utterly violated:

In the 1994 Torture Convention Implementation Act, we put into U.S. law what we had signed in Article 5 of the UN Convention Against Torture, which is defined as "an act 'committed by an [officially authorized] person' . . . specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering . . . upon another person within his custody or physical control."

The 1997 U.S. War Crimes Act "criminalizes . . . specifically enumerated war crimes that the legislation refers to as 'grave breaches' of Common Article 3 [of the Geneva Conventions], including the war crimes of torture and 'cruel or inhuman treatment.'"

The Leave No Marks report very valuably brings the Supreme Court— before Chief Justice John Roberts took over—into the war-crimes record of this administration. I strongly suggest that Human Rights First and Physicians for Social Responsibility send their report—with the following section underlined—to every current member of the Supreme Court and Congress:

"The Supreme Court has long considered prisoner treatment to violate substantive due process if the treatment 'shocks the conscience,' is bound to offend even hardened sensibilities, or offends 'a principle of justice so rooted in the traditions and conscience of our people as to be ranked as fundamental.'"

Among those fundamental rights cited by past Supreme Courts, the report continues, are "the rights to bodily integrity [and] the right to have [one's] basic needs met; and the right to basic human dignity" (emphasis added).

If the conscience of a majority on the Roberts Court isn't shocked by what we've done to our prisoners, then it will be up to the next president and the next Congress—and, therefore, up to us—to alter, in some respects, how history will judge us. But do you see any considerable signs, among average Americans, of the conscience being shocked? How about the presidential candidates of both parties? 

 

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The Hasidic Liars move right along to their claim for their third flesh temple of doom

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070830202010.xvz4id1f&show_article=1&image=large

Possible remains of second temple found in Jerusalem: TV

Aug 30 04:20 PM US/Eastern

Remains of the Jewish second temple may have been found during work to lay pipes at the Al-Aqsa mosque compound in east Jerusalem, Israeli television reported Thursday.

Israeli television broadcast footage of a mechanical digger at the site which Israeli archaeologists visited on Thursday.

Gaby Barkai, an archaeologist from Bar Ilan University, urged the Israeli government to stop the pipework after the discovery of what he said is "a massive seven metre-long wall."

Television said the pipework carried out by the office of Muslim religious affairs, or Waqf, is about 1.5 metres deep and about 100 metres long.

The compound, which houses both Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, is located in east Jerusalem, which Israel occupied in 1967 and then annexed. It is the third holiest site in Islam after Mecca and Medina.

For Jews it as known as the Temple Mount, which they revere as the site of the King Herod's second temple, which was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. It is the holiest site in Judaism.

All that remains today is the temple's Western Wall, or Wailing wall.

 
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Union: Mexican Trucks Begin Crossing Border Saturday

Union Asks Court To Block Mexican Trucks

 

POSTED: 9:32 am PDT August 29, 2007
UPDATED: 11:33 am PDT August 30, 2007

 

The Teamsters Union said it has been told by officials in the Transportation Department's Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration that the first Mexican trucks will be coming across the border on Saturday.

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The union said Wednesday it would ask a federal appeals courts to block the Bush administration's plan to begin allowing Mexican trucks to carry cargo anywhere in the United States.

Teamsters leaders said they planned to seek an emergency injunction Wednesday from the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

"What a slap in the face to American workers, opening the highways to dangerous trucks on Labor Day weekend, one of the busiest driving weekends of the year," said Teamsters President Jim Hoffa.
Joining the Teamsters in seeking the emergency stay were the Sierra Club and Public Citizen.
"Before providing unconditional access throughout the country to tens of thousands of big rigs we know little to nothing about, we must insure they meet safety and environmental standards," Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope said.

 

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, in a statement, said it was working closely with the department's inspector general "as his office completes an additional assessment of the program and we prepare a detailed response to that report."

 

The Bush administration said last week it would start the cross-border program once the Transportation Department's inspector general certifies safety and inspection plans.

 

Leslie Miller, a Teamsters spokeswoman, said attorneys for the federal truck safety agency advised the union's lawyers that they expect to get that certification on Friday. She said the Teamsters also were told by the agency attorneys that limited authority for trucks to begin crossing the border will be approved Saturday.

 

Supporters of the plan say letting more Mexican trucks on U.S. highways will save American consumers hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

Labor and driver-owner groups have been fighting the measure -- part of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement -- since it was first proposed, saying the program will erode highway safety and eliminate U.S. jobs.

 

A one-year demonstration project would allow 100 Mexican motor carriers full access to U.S. roads. It can begin as soon as the inspector general certifies that safety and inspection plans and facilities are sufficient to ensure the Mexican trucks are as safe as U.S. trucks.

 

Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks.

 

According to the CHP, 18 percent of Mexican carriers were sidelined in 2006. That figure stands in contrast with the 19 percent of American companies.
 
 
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Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Romans 10:4: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5: For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6: But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

Hasidim and their Moshiach, that son of Perdition


7: Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8: But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Not maybe


10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, 

Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.


12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? 

and how shall they hear without a preacher?


15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? 

not ordained by a state sanctioned 501 C3 institution of Satan's religion, BUT SENT BY THE FATHER

as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18: But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19: But I say, 

Did not Israel know? 

First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20: But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21: But to Israel he saith, 

All day long I have stretched forth my hands 

unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Romans 10:9

9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 


11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

 

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section 14 "The Protocols of the Illuminated Elders of Tzion"

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Daniel's Seventy Weeks

Was Peter a Jew?

The Two Witnesses

"The Whore of Babylon"

Mystery Babylon

 Are the " Ael-ians coming"

Ael-ians II

Wall Street " The Mark" is Here

Wall Street II

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It has happened "War Declared upon and in America"

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"Questions"

"All you ever need to know about their god and Qabalah"

Qabalah Part II

Qabalah Part III

National Identification Card

 ADDED Material 3-25-2004 Prophecy Unfolding

A Sincere Request to  "Rapture" Teachers

"Seventh Trumpet"

Compulsory Constitutional Cremation

Homeland Security, "The Police State"

"The Fourth Beast"

The Babylonian Talmudic Mystical Qabalah

The Scribes of Baal

How will they do it- " The false-christ"

False Christ Part II

The Word

Baal's food Tax

"The Changing of the Guards"

"Summation" The beginning of sorrows has begun

"Moshiach ben Lucifer"

Satan's Tales "Wagging the Global Dog"

"Satan's Plan", Protocols of Zion ( of course they will dispute it's authenticity)

I Witch, New One World Order Seal

Satan's Enforcers of Quaballah

Satan's Enforcers Part 2

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The Seed of God or the Seed of Satan, Your choice by faith

Pledge of Allegiance Part Two

I AM, the Revelation of Jesus Christ

King of the Noachides

"Beware the Mark"

"Beware the Mark" part two

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"Beware the Mark" Part Four

"Beware the Mark" Part Five

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"Harvest of Fear" Part Two

"Harvest of Fear" Part Three

National Organization Against Hasidic International Talmudic Enforcement

Where's Da Plane Boss, wheres da plane?

The Tarot Card Killer of Olam Ha Ba

The "Lessor Jew"

Temporary Coup d' Etat

The Federal Reserve, Fed up with the Fed?

The Protocols Today. Dispute this, Liars !

Protocols Today Part Two

Letter to a friend "It's not the Jews Dummy"

Identity of the Illuminati

The "Son's of the Synagogue of Satan"Chabad Lubavitch

Chabad Satan Part 1A

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The Chabad Satan Wall of Destruction

Chabad Wall Part 2

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The Chabad Phoenix is Rising

Columbia "The Queen of Heaven"

Patriot Akt II, Comrad 

The Infiltration of the leaven "Jerusalem Council"

Satan's One World Religion

OWR Part 2

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One World Religion Part 5

One World Religion Part 6

One World Religion Part 7 Religion Part 7

Re the god of Talmud Bavli

Perpetual Purim

"The Raiser of Taxes"

Jewish Persecution

Obedient Ishmael Kislev 19, 5764

The Final Nazi

Nazi Part 2

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Nazi Part 4

The Lord of the Ring, the Return of the Talmudic king

Changing the Time and the Laws

The Leaven of the Chabad Lubavitch Chassidim Pharisees

Exod-U.S the coming Geula 

anti-semitism?

Who murdered Jesus the Christ

"Replacement Theology" of Judaic Talmudism

Eating Rainbow Stew with a Silver Spoon, underneath a Noahide Sky

the gods

"The Two Whores"

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